Federal government says there may not be enough workstations for all workers' 4-day-a-week return

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“We have been clear from the start: there simply isn’t enough office space or available workstations to support a four-day in-office mandate,” the Public Service Alliance of Canada said in an emailed statement, adding that under the current three-day policy, shared desks are already fully booked in many departments.

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This was a pet peave for me as a union rep during the pandemic. Our workplace introduced a WFH on a “voluntary” basis scheme over night with no commitments from the employer. Meanwhile the employer cancelled leases for office spaces. In effect, the employer saved a bunch of money on the backs (homes turned into free workspaces) of the employees while giving nothing in return. People working from home got no promise they’d get to keep doing it, people who had to come in to the office had to deal with a lack of space.

Not a single union colleague wanted to talk about this, never mind raise it with the employer. Reaping: sowing.

Weird they wouldn’t talk about it. I would have. If I ever have to work in an office again I would quit.

I gain far too much to ever let that go. I get back at least 6 hours a week I would have wasted in commute and work nonsense. Lunch is when I want, work is finally asynchronous, and my car insurance is way down, and the money saved on insurance, gas, and wear and tear is crazy.

Around here the employers selling their real estate turned out to be helpful: they can’t have people back there is no room.

In any case, one of the first things we did was document productivity. It went up. Way up. So we made sure we wrote it down, got executives to read it, and put it at the beginning of the work from home manual.

A lot of people considered the vagueness — eg not having a WFH manual – of the setup a gift and didn’t want to stare a gift horse in the mouth. Irresponsible, IMO, but not my problem any more.

Its crazy to me they wouldn’t have that discussion. That would have been frustrating.

We immediately got to work having discussions on how to do it, and how to make it last.





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If a job can be done remotely, that means office spaces are just prison cells. Let this archaic capitalist enslavement end already.

I have a core memory from a a course I was doing as COVID lockdowns were kicking off.

Student: “How will I know my employees are working from home?”

Prof: “How do you know they’re working from the office?”

Exactly. When i used to work an office job, I swear I’d be doing 1 hour worth of work and the rest of the day I’d be miserably looking at the time and waiting for the day to end so I could go meet my friends to get drunk or drugged up. It was a vicious depressing cycle.


I remember CEOs going on national TV to whine about employees working from their couch. They don’t give a shit if we’re working. They’re paying to have control over us.


This.

Let output be the measure of productivity. If the work is getting done, who cares where it’s being done.

Hint: managers who can’t walk around micromanaging people.



Let it be outsourced already as well, so we can lower interest rates and feed the housing that makes up the real economy of Canada.



Why are taxpayers paying for office buildings that have been proven are not necessary ?

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Think of the landlords /s

There is an underlying issue here that corporate doesn’t really do landlords as a separate entity. These properties have been considered safe investments for decades, if this market collapses thousands of billions of corporate asset will have to be depreciated. Not to mention whole industries that hinge on people actually going to an office.

It’s a global case of dismissing objective reality and forcing luddite policies because unfathomable amounts of assets have been exposed to be factually near pointless and valueless.

“Back to office” orders are a move of the global oligarchy to protect their assets and should be seen as an attack on the populace, an attempt to continue stealing from us just as before.


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Our government quietly agrees without /s :(




How about working from home becoming the new norm? It saves companies tons of money on things like renting office space and furniture to have their staff have some work from home time.


Do worry, the solution will be fire a bunch of workers.


I don’t work for the government but I feel the “make decisions and then figure out the details later, maybe” deep in my bones lol.

I wonder if a good old fashioned “work-to-rule” would make a difference or if it’s too risky with the workforce adjustment ongoing.

What is work to rule?

It’s basically group malicious compliance as job action. The employees find all the workplace rules that are on paper that no one actually fully follows ("drivers must check oil level before heading on a delivery") and then doing each and every one to its most obnoxious version (so a driver takes time to check the oil level between every delivery, even though they checked the oil already at the start of the day). As a result productivity suffers, and pressure is on management to concede something.

It doesn’t even need to be malicious.

In teaching, they could simply just not do after hour extra curricular activities, but still just do their job normally otherwise.

It really depends on the setting though.



In addition to the other reply it means no longer putting in extra effort, and making the problems they face by following the rules managements problem.

For example, an employee might come to the office and find no open desks. They might have considered going back home and putting in a whole days work there, but work to rule could could mean alerting their supervisor that there are no available desks and ask how they should proceed. Refuse to work in conditions that don’t meet ergonomic guidelines, take your time to set up work spaces to meet the guidelines if this is possible, spend the last bit of the day booking the next days in office locations, etc. Turn off your phone when the work day is over and don’t look at your laptop after hours. If most of your day is spent dealing with hotelling, well that sure does suck - maybe they could make it easier for you to get your job done by removing these barriers?

If following the rules is a giant pain in the ass, you can make it your employers problem pretty fast. This works best if in a union and if organized as a union action.




There isn’t enough space for three days a week.


This is the stupidest shit I’ve ever heard.

People want to punish federal workers because they think they’re lazy, and they have to go to the office, so we’re doing this fucking dumb-ass half baked thing.

I think its the housing bubble they actually care about, government workers are the only employment still growing in Canada, if they can work from anywhere who will bid up asset values?

Not here. They’re laying off people for austerity. This is the most blue orange government ever.

Its still growing according to stats I’ve seen, otherwise our unemployment would have been worse.



As a metric that’s going to fuck up peoples idea of how we’re doing with our invested age pyramid. 




how about 3 days a week and two shifts and have the offices open 6 days a week for the public.


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